“If you like your insurance plan, you can keep your insurance plan [you dumb clucks].”
It turns out that up to 52 million Americans will lose health care insurance by the end of 2014.
How many of them will vote for Democrats in the fall of 2014?
I can see the negative ad billboard: Senator Snort voted for ObamaCare. Dumb.
It turns out that in 2010, a report available to the President (and Senator Snort) estimated that 69% of some employer-based plans would lose their coverage. That means up to 42 million people.
When I say “people,” I mean voters.
It gets worse. The report said that 11 million others who bought their own insurance may lose their plans. That totals 52 million people.
When I say “people,” I mean voters.
So far, at least 5 million policies have been canceled. How many people have bought replacement policies on ObamaCare’s federal and state websites? Fewer than 100,000.
There is fear in the offices of Senator Snort and his fellow Democrats. This fear will steadily escalate to panic in 2014.
Obama insisted anew Thursday that the problem is limited to people who buy their own insurance. “We’re talking about 5 percent of the population who are in what’s called the individual market. They’re out there buying health insurance on their own,” he told NBC.
But a closer examination finds that the number of people who have plans changing, or have already changed, could be between 34 million to 52 million. That’s because many employer-provided insurance plans also could change, not just individually purchased insurance plans.
How many of these could change? Maybe 23 million. Maybe 41 million. It’s not clear.
Many changes in the old insurance plans could trigger the loss of the protected status. Regulations issued by HHS state that the grandfathered status would be lost if the policies eliminate coverage for a particular condition, reduce the annual dollar limit on benefits, increase co-payments by as little as $5 or 15 percent, or increase out-of-pocket maximums by more than 15 percent or premiums by more than 5 percent.
Later in June 2010, Sebelius’ department published estimates in the Federal Register that 39 percent to 69 percent of employers’ fully insured plans would relinquish the coverage they had prior to the March 2010 passage of the ACA and thus would have to cancel or change policies.
So, Kathleen Sebelius has known for over three years that this would happen. But apparently she neglected to mention this to President Obama.
Then came the website fiasco. The President decided to check with Mrs. Sebelius to see what was wrong. She told him there were glitches.
The problem is that pre-2010 plans were supposed to be grandfathered. But to get this protection, the companies had to offer ObamaCare-level coverage. They prefer not to. So, the companies are bailing out.
Already this year, only 36 percent of employer plans were pre-2010 plans, compared with 56 percent in 2011, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a leading health care research organization. That means that millions of people’s plans already had changed or were canceled in the three and a half years since the law was enacted in March 2010.
These people vote.
Senator Snort knows they vote. Next year, 15 Senate Democrats are up for re-election.
The blame-shifting within the Democrats’ camp will begin next year. It will be top-notch political theater.
If you like your gun, you can keep your gun. If you like your freedom you can keep it.
Only "freedom" as defined and spoken by the one's "promising" said freedom.
So, it will be Dims out and RINOs in, ho-hum…and then???
IOW, END the FED!
The country will be much better off!
Much more than your health insurance here at stake! It is only the tip of this obama regime iceberg to murder America!
Obammy and his thugs knew that people would loose their insurance and that the costs of Obammycare would skyrocket out of sight . He and the Democrats are counting on people being STUPID as they were in the past since they elected Obammy not once but twice and those in the House and Senate many times. The Democrats are betting on the people continuing to be STUPID and keeping tem in Office. They are counting also on the Media to continue LYING for the Democrats have they always have or have for at least the past 50 plus years. Democrats will continue to BRIBE Americans with their own money as well. So I for one won't hold my breath on people pulling their heads out of the backsides of Democrats long enough to vote for the right thing or person during the 2014 election.
HAHAHA. 52 million people? When it doesn't happen (and it won't), I'll be back here to laugh in your face, Gary. 🙂
I do pray all 15 lose their seats then we can impeach and imprison or maybe have a hanging of these people that have committed treason
what a deal to finally get rid of the worst leader in charge of the senate .
I agree, the difference in the two is not great or apparent. We are suppose to vote the out and that leaves us voting more in. It doesn't have to be that way. We need to get behind a candidate and all agree to back him, no matter what party he is affiliated with. I would prefer no party but realistically that phrase "anyone can grow up to be president" is not actually true. Well it has a lot of amendments that make it not true.
I would like to see Ben Carson run but they would assassinate him before he could get started. The only way he would stand a chance is have enough security around him. The amount of money it takes automatically calls for crooks.
The democrats like to say that the republicans offered no alternative. I think they did, but that part of the government compared to that other part is not an acceptable alternative. I say privatize. Keep the incompetent running the country where they can only destroy so many lives. Donald Duck is the write in candidate of choice, we will leave Mickey mouse out of it. He is too old to run.
To prove your point the polls show Hillary Clinton ahead of Christy by ten points. I want to say at this point that people are not getting the true information. I always think these people are dumb, but that is not what it is, the are getting their information from news people such as Msnbc. How could anyone make a good decision based on what they spread. It is good manure but that is about it.
Get the government out of everything other than the National defense and even that needs to be under the supervision of the 50 staes.
And should it happen, we all know Shane will pretend he never made this post at all.
Poor Shane, the guy who can never admit when he is wrong, like the time he demanded proof that Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone.
I hope everyone realizes why the government wants to take guns away from the honest law abiding citizens. Hitler did the same thing.
The government will not close the borders. I did not say they cannot close them, they will not. They cannot control or take away the guns from criminals. It may have something to do with whose side these criminals are actually on. For anyone to be the former state senator of Illinois and then the federal senator and then the president to say we need gun control when we can look at his (home state) with among the most strict gun laws and the highest murder rate, is the best comedy theme I have ever seen.
You are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
Ironically, those 52 million probably are self employed and most likely voted for Romney, and previously McCain. That is why obama doesn't really care about them. If you are not with him, you are his enemy. He does not represent all of us, only the ones that voted for him. He and the insurance companies (their lobbists wrote the bill) knew all about what is happening. The insurance co lobbists wrote it so that people would be forced to buy more expensive policies, which makes the next few quarters look better for the accountants. The problem is that they didn't think of the consequences of nationalized healthcare and no need for insurance at all.
I agree it's only the tip of the iceberg. There are so many crazy possibilities of what he (and Hillary who could come after him) would or could do. If you have any money or possessions watch out. Just like lawyers, you go after the money, not somebody who is poor. A prime example: Have you heard about the Dems eyeing 401K and IRA money? They want that money converted to Treasury debt. It equals around the $17 trillion in national debt. Who do you think would come out on the short end of the stick on 401K and IRA confiscation? Can you think of any examples you have heard of?
Sebelius may be an idiot, but where does the author come up with "she apparently forgot to tell the President about the tens of millions who would lose their insurance". Is there any one on this post that thinks Obama did not know as far back as 2010 that tens of millions would lose their insurance? Most every action in/by this administration had his blessing. Does anyone really doubt that?
And yes, companies change, or make minor changes to their health insurance plans all the time.
Quick get Obama another fix so he can figure a way out of his situation without Valerie Jarrett, Michelle Obama, Chuck Schumer, and the rest of the brown nosers.
However, considering how crooked elections have become; how the powers that be (i.e. the truly one party system evident today between the democrat, rino and republican party — singular description intended, just who in their right mind honestly believes these votes will have any effect anyway? Then if we add into the mix the modern tendencies of the republican party to self-destruct by design by nullifying Tea Party, grass root, and other strong conservative voting blocks, to rapidly eliminate real and meaningful conservative candidates throughout the primaries; hand picking candidates very similar to the democrat candidates in order to preserve the combined agendas regardless of who wins and by quite intentionally undermining their own party's candidates chances at winning in order for all of this to effectively "throw the election" as was done with the Obama elections and many others in the House and especially in the Senate at those times and since, and the U.S. electoral process is shown widely for the sham that it is.
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If anyone has any doubts about this, all they have to do is to actually have the guts to closely examine Obama's elections (both times), Harry Reid's most recent election, Pelosi and many of the other democrat candidates under the lenses of the U.S. Constitution, the law, and under scrutiny of known and documented frauds and abuses and what (if anything) was ever done about such violations, and including the debacle and miscarriage of justice regarding the freeing of convicted criminals in the new black panthers who were found guilty of using threats and intimidation to manipulate the outcome of an election and then were set free without any reasonable or lawful incarceration for their crimes. We might wish to consider this, as well as the many other instances where reasonable and legal redress for crimes committed by the government and representatives of the same have been proven to be nullified.
Re the headline on 52 million 'may' lose insurance and then they will vote; but by that time another million or so voting machines will have been rigged to show all votes are for liberals. It worked for the Dems in 2012. Did anyone ever hear of any votes cast for Obama ever being thrown out? NO – of course not. It will be the same in 2014 and it's for one reason: The reason why: Obama and the Dems control the non-Justice Department and just like 2012 they will not allow any votes to be overturned.
Is this the time to end ObamaCare? The Fed? Gun Control? Record Borrowing? Record Food Stamps? The National Debt?
Certain things are givens. ALL of the above are strangling our republic. Prioritizing them will not be easy. One thing is a MUST!
This grossly incompetent, allegedly ineligible President must be Fired as as possible. Treasonous lawmakers must also fall.
This is why he wants to legalize the 11 million+ illegals, so they'll vote Democrat!
and as always barrys folks , illegals , progressives will vote for the demonrats because they will be promised more before the elections , this of course at taxpayers expense
Obama said numerous times that he meets with his dept. heads every day, if not in person but on the phone. For sometime who does this he certaintly is not very well informed or imformed and he ignores. Either way its incompetience at the the verry least by all.
Even the stupid are waking up – when they found out that NSA was monitoring THEIR phone calls and emails it hit home. As more companies cut fulltime employees back to 30 hours to avoid buying Obamacare for them, it woke up more people. If they lose their insurance and find out what a replacement policy will cost, it hits them directly in the wallet. "But you promised me I could keep my policy if I like it, I could keep my doctor…" "How come I can't find any decent fulltime jobs anymore?"
Reality bites and takes the rosy colored glasses off..
The Republicans have a super chance to take back the Senate in 2014, will they do it or wimp out again?
No Big deal what is 10-15 MILLION people / VOTERS losing their insurance they should not have gotten themselves in "A Situation" you darn Dummies. BUT obama is out trying to get his 15 MILLION ILLEGALS registered as Demon Rats to insure their elections are WON by them. Liberals Evil Minded people.
I agree. When month after month people will be payng higher insurance bills that covers things they do not need like sx change operations, etc. They will not be quick to forget and they will vote with their wallets.
I'm surprised that ppl like shane can even find their way to the bathroom w/out WRITTEN DIRECTIONS. That is beyond
stupid. It's RETARDED.
Just like the congress and the FSC does NOT know that Obama is not even a legal sitting president. Tell me another GOOD ONE. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And all those illegals will NOW have their medical coverage thanks to the suckers paying taxes too. The piped piper has sold the US taxpayers down the river. Thank you demoncraps! What NEXT? Install obamy as the Dictator in Chief?
And just think, for each of those 52 million who loose their coverage and either have to pay a fine or charged a much higher rate, and that are working taxpayers, will be at least one, maybe two, who do not work, and who will get free healthcare. Sickening.
The question is what will the Republicans offer as an alternative? They have offered high deductible health plans with health savings accounts, but Americans have already rejected the high deductible health plans under the ACA; they do not want high deductibles and HSAs. If there is no better alternative, many people will decide that "something is better than nothing" and still vote for the ACA crowd.
I oppose the ACA, but I am realistic about the Republicans' plan and how it would be received. Health insurance is very expensive and many cannot afford it, even before the ACA. If we could cut all federal business income taxes to 0%, we could make the U.S. economy take off, with both domestic and foreign investment, millions of jobs would be created, incomes would rise, and many people would get private health insurance either through work or individually. But I am not too optimistic about that happening.
Do not worry, most of them are millionaires and billionaires; they can afford it. The IRS has reclassified the median income for "millionaire" to $35,000 annually and "billionaire" to $50,000 annually. If you think about it, if they work long enough, they will earn millions and billions, so why not hit them up before they do and put all that money in an offshore bank account?Inside of every middle class wage earner, there is a greedy millionaire or billionaire waiting to get out and defraud the government. We must be proactive with these things for the "good of the State." "If you want to make an omelet, you have to break a few eggs." Get used to being an egg in the Marxist omelet of the United States of Cuba.
If you like your democratic congressmen and
senators, you can retire them for a undeserved rest and hire a few worthy conservatives who will reduce your taxes, protect you from liberal terrorists, and do what they can to get your grandchildren out of debt.