Attorney General Eric Holder stood his ground at a meeting of the NAACP. He said that “stand your ground” laws are bad. He thinks black people, like all other people, should not carry a gun. They should not stand their ground when threatened. He said this.
Separate and apart from the case that has drawn the nation’s attention, it’s time to question laws that senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods. (sustained applause) These laws try to fix something that was never broken. There has always been a legal defense for using deadly force if – and the “if” is important – no safe retreat is available.
But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely. By allowing and perhaps encouraging violent situations to escalate in public, such laws undermine public safety. The list of resulting tragedies is long and – unfortunately – has victimized too many who are innocent. It is our collective obligation – we must stand our ground – (applause) to ensure that our laws reduce violence, and take a hard look at laws that contribute to more violence than they prevent.
The liberals at the NAACP agree. They clapped.
The main victims of violence from gangs and thugs in the United States are residents of the inner cities. Here, police protection is minimal. Here, people either stand their ground or get run over by thugs.
But such talk, in Holder’s view, rejects common sense. There is no need for laws protecting victims of thugs and criminals when the victims defend themselves. The public should wait patiently for the police to intervene. Meanwhile, if they are upset with thugs, they can always run.
Problem: when you are facing an armed teenager, you probably can’t outrun him. Or maybe your wife can’t.
If you don’t want to carry a gun, maybe your wife will. Maybe she will stand her ground. You, of course, can do it Holder’s way. You can run.
The victims of this world need to know that they are not facing government prosecution if they stand their ground successfully. That’s what “stand your ground” laws do. They send a signal. “If a thug threatens you, and you persuade him to cease and desist — permanently — you will not go to jail. Probably. Maybe. Possibly. If you can afford a team of lawyers.”
Holder wants even this minimal declaration removed from the statute books.
Eric “Fast and Furious” Holder seeks to subsidize a growing franchise: “Thugs R Us.”
Hey, Eric, there was "no safe retreat is available." Have you not been listening or watching this trial? One guy jumped another and was on his chest, beating the heck out of him. Don't be such as a$$!
There is no question as to the individual rights instilled in the foundation of this country and civilization itself….you have a right to defend yourself against aggression….if you feel threatened to the point of bodily harm or even the possibility of death….shoot!!! Once again the far left only wants the criminals to have guns!!!
I will agree to the "pack mentality" is oh so true with blacks and hispanics….I've been the victim of both…living in Detriot in the late 60's at 12 yrs old having to attend a 90% black school and again in Riverside, Calif at age 17 at a school 60% hispanics. Funny thing no one would fight me one on one when challenged to do so. holder is an idiot….I'm so sick of these unqualified people serving in our government…..they are on both sides of the isle….as obvious by watching and listening to the congress.
The whole idea of legally disarming or forcing the law-abiding to retreat in the face of thugs is beneficial only to the thugs (whether government or otherwise). Further complicating that policy of surrendering freedoms to thugs is the nonsense of a "safe retreat". Who makes that determination of "safety" some half-(v)assed lawyer after the fact, fully imbued with it's sense of political correctness? No different than the asinine idea of sending lawyers onto the battlefield after a battle to determine whether soldiers behaved in a manner politically acceptable to politicians who have never (unfortunately) been in fear for their lives. I'll decide what's safest for me , thank you. MOLON LABE!!! KTNN!
What? Holder is arguing I don't have a right to defend myself? I guarantee I will defend myself. IF he doesn't like it, he can kiss my rosie-red Dolf Lungren looking buttafuco.
The Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that police have no charge to protect citizens individually. The police are here for the public at large, in other words: you're on your own, if the police can safely protect you then it's up to them to make that call. Otherwise, you are on your own. The police duty is to pickup the pieces and attempt to find and charge perpetrator(s).
Your protection is common sense and whatever level of protection is allowed where you live.
We exist in dangerous times where criminals have more protections than citizens.
…this…from a guy who has Secret Service protection by people with GUNS…24/7. Two words for Mr. Holder : Phughk Ewe!
Stand your ground should not need to be legislated. In my world it's an innate instinct.
Here we go again ! Disarm the populace, and everything will be peachy keen. Balderdash ! S.O.S. = Same Old $hit. It is the left's wet dream to disarm law abiding citizens. GUN CONTROL is not about GUNS; it is about CONTROL, and the populace is wising up. One leftist was honest enough to tell us what the issue really is: “Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless.” — Vladimir Lenin Any questions, comrades ?
Perhaps Zimmerman should of been charged for not obeying a direct order from the dispatcher? Do you think dispatcher should have more authority thus making it unlawful to disobey a direct order from them? This was the problem! Zimmerman should of stopped and retreated. Is that not a fair assessment? Zimmerman should of listen to the dispatcher and stayed in the car. I do think Zimmerman had the right to protect himself if there was a threat to him while he was in the car. Is there a crime or threat for walking in a gated community while black now? Zimmerman should of retreated when he was told to do so by the dispatcher. Perhaps this is what Atty General Holder was speaking about. Forget about what happen afterwards, this was simply a failure to obey the instruction from a 911 dispatcher.
If gun control works so well. Why is it that the states and cities that have it, have the highest murder rates??? Just a little observation on my part
"The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion." (Proverbs 28:1)
"Like a trampled spring and a polluted well Is a righteous man who gives way before the wicked. " (Proverbs 25:26)
"But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house [including spiritual and physical protection], he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel." (1 Timothy 5:8)
For more concerning the Biblical RESPONSIBILITY to bear arms in defense of ourselves, families, and neighbors, listen to "The Second Amendment: A Knife in a Gunfight," delivered last March at the Springfield, Missouri Firearms and Freedom Symposium, at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.com/#FeaturedM….
At the same location, you'll also find a radio interview Larry Pratt (Executive Director of Gun Owners of America) conducted with me on this same issue. I think you'll find Mr. Pratt's remarks especially interesting.
For those who prefer to read, see our blog article "You Can't Win Bringing a Knife to a Gunfight."
Easy for this TRASHMAN TO MAKE SUCH COMMENTS WHEN HE IS LIKELY TO HAVE SECRET sERVICE PERSONAL PROTECTION ON REQUEST WHILE HE DENIES EVERYONE ELSE'S RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES IF ATTACKED BY ANYONE. I HAVE SAID BEFORE THAT THERE IS NO NEED FOR CLARIFICATION OR INTERPRETATION OF LAWS AND APPLICATION. WHAT IS NEEDED IN THIS COUNTRY IS equitable enforcement of existing law in all venues! WE DO NOT SEE SUCH!. if WE DID, THERE WOULD BE NM ILLEGALS IN THIS COUNTRY, MARRIAGE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ARBITRARILY REDEFINED, WE WOULD NOT HAVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS ON THOSE INIMICAL TO US WHILE IT IGNORES THE PLIGHT OF AMERICAN CITIZENS, OBAMA WOULD NOR5T BE PRESISDENT AND HOLDER WOULD BE WHERE HE BELONGS
I wish all Holder was is an idiot. Unfortunately, he is a criminal holding the highest "law enforcement" position in the United States. He should be sitting in a prison cell right next to the one that Obama is in!
Holder's reason #1 why he hates Christians: With regard to gun control: Jesus’ admonition in Matthew
12:29 and Mark 9:40: “How can anyone enter a strong man’s house and make off with his property unless he first ties him securely? Only then can he rob his house. He who is not with me is against me…”
Newtown was robbed of its greatest treasure. Chicago is being eaten away by the self serving nomenklatura.
Luke 22 verse 36: “Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise his sack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.
"As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord…" Joshua 24:15
The dispatcher simply said "We don't need you to do that". That is not an "order" as you said (regardless of whether there's any obligation to follow instructions from a dispatcher – which is a different subject). I would have considered that as "advice" if it were directed at me, not an "order". In other words, paraphrasing how a reasonable person might have interpreted that comment (without benefit of 20/20 hindsight), "You can go ahead if you want, but it's not necessary – we don't need you to do that." The fact that the dispatcher continued to ask GZ questions about the circumstances indicates the dispatcher did not consider GZ to be "disobeying" – otherwise the dispatcher would have said something like "get back in your car, like I told you." It appears you're obsessed with finding GZ responble somehow for TZ's vicious assault on the smaller, weaker, older man. That's much like blaming a woman for being raped.
FROM THE VOICE OF A THUG!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK PLS. HE MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. I AM TOO OLD TO RUN BUT MY TRIGGER FIONGER STILLS WORKS—-QUITE WELL I MUST SAY…
What a naive fool
So Holder advises that our forefathers should have run from the British Regulars at Concord ?
You can be certain that anything and everything that puts citizens at the mercy of an increasingly tyrannical government is on Holder's calendar.
Put away your guns. Let tyranny rule. Buck! Buck! Buck!
I agree! This man is not only an a_ _ _ _ _e but a criminal just like his boss!
Holder sounds like a B.I.T.C.H.! with no brain!
Thugs are usually more committed to crime and violence which makes flight often impossible. The only answer is for individuals to have personal protection in the form of a hand gun, pepper spray, mace or some other deterrent which are often unavailable on the spur of the moment when crime strikes.
Are you fucking retarded? He didn't listen to the police when they told him to stay put. He chased after the kid. He put himself into a dangerous situation. It was his fault, period.
BTW, how did he pull a gun from his back if he was ON his back getting punched? Oh, that's right – he couldn't have.
What Eric meant to say is "If you are white or a white Hispanic and are attacked by a black man you better run your a$$ off because if you defend yourself I be coming after your a$$"…
Same could be said for Martin, he could have stayed in the shadows, waited until Zimmerman had gone far enough away, (he was returning to car) then proceeded home It needs to be remembered, Martin is the one who jumped and sucker punched Zimmerman, pounced on him while down, and was according to Martin's girlfriend, giving Zimmerman an A– Whoopin'. Martin's own text messages show he lived for the fight .
Well, actually, they don't.
You forgot DC, there are Black on Black crimes, drive bys, armed robberies, muggings, ALL WITHIN the SHADOW OF THE WHITE HOUSE. These make the Washington Post inside the METRO section almost daily.
He was doing what any member of a watch would do, giving as much information a he can, race, clothing and size, direction of travel and approx. address closest to activity. 911 operators and police dispatchers ARE NOT law enforcement people.
HOLDER IS JUST ANOTHER WELL PROTECTED.. PUNK!!!!
Just another racist reason why racist holder and his racist regime needs to be gone,yesterday!
SELF DEFENSE…….THATS ALL IT COMES DOWN TO.. ZIMMERMAN NEVER USED THAT STAND LAW…THEY ARE ALL SUCH RACE BAITER FOOLS
You know what amazes me–these very fools who are out there marching and rioting, saying we are Trayvon; opposing others defending themselves, are the ones who have umpteen kids on government assistance and don't even SEE OR HELP WITH THEIR OWN KIDS! Thanks to thugs like zero and holdout, these people are still in slavery and prison to them. If they were employed or risked losing their jobs, they wouldn't be out rioting!
As the WH Turns…OB just wants a race War and this is all part of the
Liberal/Commie agenda coming from this administration. We the People
need to wake-up and see that we are being attacked on all levels now!
There are so many different attacks happening and it's all going to end
with OB declaring Martial Law! This NWO of Commies knows that not just
one or two or three conflicts will give OB the right (in their eyes
only) to declare martial law, so they are creating a whole host of fake
problems and false flags so he can declare martial law! The agenda is
clear for anyone that will open their eyes and see the unending
corruption streaming out of the WH, the DOJ, and even the Dem's in
Congress along with GOP RINO's like McCain! And in the mean time OB and
his Evil followers in the DHS, TSA, etc are gearing up to murder and
take "We the People" down! Their Plan/Agenda is so clear that if you
don't see it you must be brain dead…!!! Just go to the GOA and see
all they have purchase, and have never purchased before, to use on "We
the People"…!!! Tanks, why the heck would the DHS need tanks, 2
Billion rounds of HP bullets (illegal in War), all 3,000 Fema Camps
fully Staffed, Huge underground bunkers allover the Nation, Mobile TSA
Bullet Proof Check Point, just in April over 7,000 fully automatic
machine guns (M4's M16's what do they machine guns for!) delivered, and
this is just the tip of the iceberg! Those of us that have seen the
light know that this will end only one way and millions if not billions
will die! These are the very same tactics used by Hitler in the 1930's
to take control of Germany and the German People. Jesus please return
NOW and put and end to Satan and his EVIL MURDERING FOLLOWERS…!!!
America is for Freedom to live and for Freedom to defend ,and even against a tyranny goverment!
under the constitution i have an absolute right to defend myself against any and all attackers. if someone swings at me i will drop him/her where he/she stands. i have no expectation to determine what motives the attacker has or if those motives will change during the struggle. i do not have to endanger myself and allow an attacker to get a lucky shot and seriously injure or kill me even by accident. i have no obligation to determine what amount of force is excessive or only enough to protect myself. i have no obligation to back off giving an attacker the chance to pull a concealed knife or gun and cause me injury or death. an attacker voluntarily of his/her own free will gives up their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, as a victim i have the right to preserve my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. criminals look for and feed off any perceived signs of weakness like backing off or trying to flee and they use it to their advantage to advance their agenda. contact your state representatives and governor and demand that they pass texas style legislation that allows you to shoot and kill anyone you catch committing a crime even if they don't pose any threat, you can even shoot them in the back as they are running away. that is the best way to protect ourselves.
It seems to me that the most basic problem is that Americans have not stood their ground against Chicago punks like the usurper and Mr. Holder.
The whole thing about you having the guts to stand your ground is that the Obama bunch is scared to hell that if you will defend your self and protect your family that you will not be afraid to stand and face them when they try to screw us over and if you are like me and several of my freinds and family will stand or rather push there ass's out of our neighborhood and if neccessary out of our country
Erica Holdover, just another few words for "FOOL."
Gun confiscation is all this is about !!!
Yes, I agree. That's why I said it was an innate instinct. No reason for legislation. When we can't defend ourselves as our own instinct tells us to it becomes the tyranny of the self-professed "oppressed."
Run! Holder, Run!!!
You've committed crimes against this nation and against Mexico (maybe others).
Run!!!
It is our given right to defend our selves and our property .
Most of the time I want time to go slow since I'm 46 and I don't want to get old but I just want these next 3.5 year to go quickly so I don't have to see these two worthless Race baiters Holder and Obama lead our country. 2016 hurry up
Your analogy is weak. Its not the same. A reasonable person would of follow the advice of the dispatcher and waited for law enforcement to arrive. Where was the threat? Is there a crime for walking while black? If a person is diabetic and their sugar runs low. And if you call 911 and the dispatcher says" i would not put anything in their mouth." Would you disregard their professional advice, and continue to go ahead and give that person some juice (thinking you know best)? I'm not obsessed with anything regarding this case. My point was clear. You don't know if TM attack GZ any more than I do. All we can do is speculate.
I like the part that infers that if you can't out run the attacker you should wait patiently for the police to come or run. How is that working out in Chicago? In a place with the most restrictive gun carry and owner laws in this country, which by the way has more murders in the same given time as does Afghanistan. That by the way is a country at war. How about those secret service and officers that are protecting Holder and the president, shouldn't they give up their guns? No just those whom the govt. might want to take over or take advantage of. The Zimmermen trial has been the most over blown thing in years. It was obvious when they did not bring charges in the first place that there wasn't enough evidence to charge Zimmerman. Then they bypassed using a grand jury and went to court. The woman who was the head of the prosecution withheld evidence and misrepresented evidence and should be disbarred and face criminal charges. Obama got involved in this when he should have been playing golf, maybe while he is playing golf he isn't taking over the country.
Eric Holder is a real piece of Chicken S***. I'll bet he is packing heat and wouldn't caught anywhere without it especially in Chicanigro, Illinois.
Speaking of RETARDED, are you incapable of following a sequence of events, Zimmerman was already out of his car when the 911 dispatcher told him to stay put in his car. He was returning to his car when he was confronted and attacked by Martin. Martin bashed Zimmerman's head on the concrete walk and was trying to either do great physical harm or kill him. Zimmerman shot him in self-defense. Too bad if you don't like it. I don't like to fact that Martin was killed; however he attacked Zimmerman and caused his own death. There are no winners, everyone lost in this case.
Shane, are YOU fucking retarded? The DISPATCHER (not a cop) said, "We don't need you to do that" and that is NOT an order from a LEO. Got that now? Maybe? Facts get in the way of your arguments much? It is NOT illegal to follow someone you are suspicious of, nor is it illegal to carry a handgun, patrol your neighborhood, and follow people while on the phone with the cops. It IS illegal to physically assault someone.
Or at least getting rid of the stand your ground laws so people's right to self defense is badly limited once again. The liberals have been trying to find some way to limit law abiding citizens right of self defense since those laws were passed especially since their predictions of blood in the streets hasn't materalized.
He did not follow Trayvon and Zimmerman had a right to be there and he had a right to be suspicious of Trayvon and he was doing what he was suppose to do, dispatcher or not. He was attacked by Trayvon and was left with no choice but to defend himself. They keep showing Martin as a little boy in the pictures of him when he was a little boy. Trayvon was not a small child and some of the evidence the prosecution withheld from the defense showed the cage fighting training that Martin had and there had been burglaries in the neighborhood, that is why that had a neighborhood watch. The news media seems to want to convict these people in the media according to their own beliefs no matter what the facts are.
Just keep telling yourself that, take another drink of the koolaid you idiot. NUMBERS DON'T LIE.
FYI Shane, the police did not tell him to stay put. A 911 operator did. 911 operators are not police, and receive only the most basic training.
Further erroneous claims by Shane… the trial revealed that Zimmerman did not chase Trayvon after he talk off running. Instead Trayvon came back. And second, we know the gun was in his pocket because no one is stupid enough to use their fists to attack a guy with a gun and we know Zimmerman was on his back with Trayvon pounding his face and skull because of eyewitness testimony from witness #6.
Good to have you back Shane, we didn't have any making laughably ignorant comments while you were on vacation.
The government seems to think it is better that the only people allowed to own guns is their protectors and the criminals. The rest of us who are at the mercy of them should have no choice. I disagree.
Shon….the dispatcher has no authority, they are not sworn officers, so there could not be a "direct order". trayvon was a thug, he got what he asked for
I agree and I don't have to bring religion into the picture at all. These people who want to quote the Bible should realize hat the bible teaches life lessons of behavior. I totally agree that we have politicians who should not be in office and should be in a cell.
When seconds count; the Police are just minutes away!
Shame he wasn't so peaceful when the Branch Davidians refused to surrender, huh? Some of us have long long memories and remember who was amongst those in charge at Mt Carmel April 19 1993.
What of those who cannot run? The handicapped or elderly? Should they die for the greater good?
I understand but I have to also add that taking your gun is only part of the attack on 2nd amendment rights, they have also taken the ammunition.
It isn't that we the people are not aware, it is that we have no leverage. We have no representation from our elected representatives. and we have no alternative. We have been spending more than we can pay even before Obama, who has put spending in super high gear. Are these people who are suppose to be taking care of our business even apable of handling their own family expenses?
Yes, Yes, Yes but he isn't and we are impotent.
Giving the fact that SCOUS decision does not provide for the police to protect citizens, it therefore becomes our responsibility to protect ourselves. As a senior citizen I will not retreat as I was taught not to in the service of my country.
Firearms save lives and confrontations between good and bad people every day. Look at the statistics of states that give their citizens the right to carry a weapon, and those that don't. Florida use to be one of the most lawless states in the union, until the citizens were given the right to carry a pistol. Now it is one of the safest states in the union for armed robberies and assaults (as Trevon found out.)
Those are the ones that get shot in the back or stabbed.
o sure, i love the idea of turn the other cheek……..you first
So what this administrations Department of Justice Eric Holder is saying is that they promote bullying and never defend yourself.
Does Mr. Holder follow his own advice, it would be good to know.
WELL: HOLDER needs to run run back to OBAMA'S homeland KENYA and run very fast. The stand your ground laws were passed to allow the innocent citizen to protect them selves from the POT HEAD COUGH SYRUP,SODA,SKITTLES junkie street walking gangbanger wanna be thugs like TREYVON MARTIN. If Zimmerman had not had a gun and had run the DOPED UP GANG BANGER WANNA BE TREYVON WOULD HAVE CHASED HIM DOWN AND KILLED HIM like he was trying to do. TREYVON COULD HAVE RUN HE CHOSE TO ATTACK INSTEAD His drug fogged brain didn't work too good and it killed him.end of story.
Oh Honey, Holder is So right! After all we all know that in Colorado women who are about to be raped can run like the wind to a safe place and then pee on the guy in hot pursuit!
These poor people have absolutely no sense of personal survival. None.
Remember in the midterm and elections afterward. My take: anyone who looks or sounds like holder, obama, trayvon and their activists, supporters, vote AGAINST them. As for run. I did. I accept NO patients who look like, or live in areas like these specimens. Growing shortage in the 'hood of health care providers, regardless of the (taxpayer paid) 'incentives. Noticed that, generally, the stress became lighter with the complexion, and better speaking ability. Imagine jeantel being your (affirmative action decreased standards) being your nurse. Add Obama scare care service decreases with that.
Trayvon's father decided that the best way to deal with Trayvon's ten day suspension from school was to take him on a small vacation to spend time at the house of the father's mistress, then leave him unsupervised all day. Not how I would have handled the situation. It is true Travyon wasn't doing anything wrong…until he decided to attack Zimmerman.
"He thinks black people, like all other people, should not carry a gun. They should not stand their ground when threatened. He said this."
Just like every other liberal democrat. The only people who should have guns are the criminals and the government. Oh, wait. They're both one and the same!
Michael I agree with you 100%, Although its Obvious that Holder is very much Anti-American, This has got to be the most stupid thing so far that left his lips.We didn't have to stand our ground in WW2, we could have run, right holder.
I thought Holder was supposedly an attorney. If so, he should be well aware that the Zimmerman trial was never about the Stand Your Ground law. It has about as much to do with the Zimmerman case as chicken soup has to do with the current standing of the New York Yankees.
Evil continues and increases until opposed by the Good. Holder places the blame on those who defend themselves against others who feed on the weak. Weak-feeders need to be stopped by Right action. Such action is just, protects the innocent, and punishes evil doers.
The problem is that our government — Obama, Holder, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Waters, Boxer, Schumer, Sanders — are professional evil-doers, and the enablers of evil doers. Until we get moral people to take up the fight for Right and Good in our government, we will only see more division, violence, and death.
Next goal to have the home owners run away as well, instead of standing their ground to defend their family. The over all agenda is to take away all fire arms from the citizens that is what we should be asking the questions about just why is this administration so intent on taking away all fire arms rights?
From The Article: "But we must examine laws that take this further by eliminating the common sense and age-old requirement that people who feel threatened have a duty to retreat, outside their home, if they can do so safely. By allowing and perhaps encouraging violent situations to escalate in public, such laws undermine public safety. The list of resulting tragedies is long and – unfortunately – has victimized too many who are innocent. "
Brilliant! Is this actually happening anywhere? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re so “politically incorrect” it isn’t funny… but Scripturally speaking, you’re right on target! Thanks for once again pointing out our Biblical responsibilities… and for Keeping the Faith.
Pat Mahaney ran and he,s dead now after 6 teens beat him to death eric, is your justice department going to put those punks in prison for murder, What Mr. Mahaney should have done is carry a pistol and defended him self,but since the 6 look like you and the puke in the White House i guess nothing will be done. Bastards.
Thanks Lucky3511 you are absolutely correct,that,s why we need to regain our country and only have people who have read our Constitution and must live by it, i,ll bet that neither holder or barry soetoroe have even thumbed through the document.
Eric Holder is an idiot. His philosophy works so well in Chicago where thousands of people are killed every year. He deserves no attention and should be ignored. This entire administration is full of idiots and fools.
Stupid asshat. Why didn't Trayvon Martin run? This is our Attorney General and he has no clue what the stand your ground laws are or mean. This was NOT a stand your ground case, but rather a clear case of self-defense. Zimmerman could not stand his ground because he was flat on his back on the ground getting the crap beat out of him. Liberalism is truly a serious mental disorder.
Holder is blaming the victim. If the victim gets beaten up, it's the victim's fault. Eric Holder can kiss my ass.
Holder has armed security and I bet he would still run off screaming like an eight year old girl! that prick!
Hey there Eric! 'By the way, my sarcasm is electrified by my absolute disgust with you and your running homie Obama Yo' mamma. Let us begin with your 'Fast n furious' debacle. Next let us throw in your protection of the real enemies of our country. your 16th amendment, wages withholding/national leadership corrupting/ malevolence inciting tax code. Next let us throw in your protection of the whore/pimp enforcer of your 16th amendment tax code, the equally corrupt, criminal and inept IRS.
We all know, yourself and your 'bed partner' homie 'Obama Yo' Mamma are desperately seeking the 'Perfect storm' issue to champion to distract attention away from the national interest damaging issues that are plaguing you both. The issues of note are of course the above mentioned. As well, Obama Yo' mamma's death scandal 'Benghazi'
Rest assured Mr.Holder, preparations are already under way insuring the prompt and immediate annihilation of your prostitute/pimp 16th-IRS taxing system if a fair tax/flat tax is not instituted soon. As well, rest assured that the majority of Americans nation wide 'white, Black, Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans etc. are on to yours and Obama Yo Mamma's criminality and duplicity regarding this Martin/Zimmerman issue. When the verdict is in and all detect yours and Obama's cowardly self preservation scheme at the leverage and use of Black Americans nation wide, they will be going after you both with the same vociferous hatred that we all will exhibit when we all go after your criminal IRS!!!
R/S Jack Soto Master Gunnery Sergeant United States Marine Corps. retired
Holder probably doesn't know this, because he probably took Law School pass or fail and nobody failed, because it would hurt their feelings.
What's Eric Holder even bringing up Stand Your Ground while he is taking advantage of the Trayvon debacle? That trial was on self defense, not stand your ground. Leave it to Eric Holder to use any crisis he can manufacture to further his anti-gun agenda. Enough about Trayvon, the jury decided that Zimmerman wasn't guilty, let's get back to things like the IRS, NSA, Fast and Furious, Obamacare disaster, Benghazi…..and that stinky land deal scandal that Holder was involved in…
Holder is a muslim which says it all.
And Holder believes in this soooo much that starting Monday is giving up his private army that protects him and his family. Yea right Ha-ha-ha-ha.
This is a part of the owebombs euthanasia population control plan, When you can't outrun rthe gangstas they catch you steal all you posess and then kick you to death. Big Brother will be there watching to see that you cannot defend yourself.
This is a part of the owebombs euthanasia population control plan, When you can't outrun the gangstas they catch you, steal all you possess and then kick you to death. Big Brother will be there watching to see that you cannot defend yourself. And take your heirs to court in the event one of the gangstas hurts his foot or hand while killing you.
He can't help it he was born that way. Just like his boss & the rest of the cabinet.
Anyone who's out lookin' to make some more "PURPLE DRANK" and attacks the neighborhood watch fo getting in his way is not looking to fulfill a duty to retreat, nor provide an opportunity to retreat. Mr. Little went in asking for the outcome he got.
Hey Joepenthouse. You are so right on on both of your statement. Holder and OBAMA should be run out of office and hung. Bastards is even a good description of these TPOS.
Oh yeah, Run then you won't get shot in the face, you will get it in the back.
Sure, like most anti-gun Liberals, Holder lives in a gated community, guarded by (what else) armed men. Of course, we ordinary people cannot shoot an intruder-we must call the police & wait !!!!!
Shane, I just gotta ask–do you check to see which is the liberal PC position before you take your own position on any issue? You're so incredibly predictable.
And next they will add inside your own home as well that you should run instead of stand your ground and protect what is yours. All as another way to make gun owners a criminal element just like the returning veterans were made into terrorist.
Nowhere in the 911 call was Zimmerman told to "stay put". He was told that he "didn't need to do that [follow Martin]." In Zimmerman's effort to locate Martin, he lost him and started to RETURN to his car. Martin then jumped him. (per testimony at trial)
It's quite obvious that the jury understood that Zimmerman was acting in self-defense. These women heard ALL the testimony and the prosecution failed to prove that Zimmerman was guilty of any crime.
So why is it that some people, without knowing ALL the facts of the case are so quick to say Zimmerman is guilty of murder when all they've heard was what the media has fed them?
Oh, that's right – they WANT him to be guilty. this is the definition of prejudice!
Holder seems to forget that "stand your ground" is the God given right of self defense.
Holder is upset that a "white guy" protected himself from a black thug, was prosecuted, and found not guilty. That means that white guys and white gals are gonna protect themselves from black thugs and gangstas. It's so unfair, isn't it Eric? We're not gonna lay down and be crime victims anymore!!!
Go stuff yourself you commie bassterd!!
Sorry Eric. I can't walk, let alone run. I'd have to stand my ground – no other option.
Erica Holdover gives a whole new meaning to the word evil and fool. Whoops that two words!
The February 2012 shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martion might never have happened if school officials in Miami-Dade County had not instituted an unofficial policy of treating crimes as school disciplinary infractions. Revelations that emerged from an internal affairs investigation explain why Martin was not arrested when caught at school with stolen jewelry in October 2011 or with marijuana in February 2012. Instead, the teenager was suspended from school, the last time just days before he was shot dead by George Zimmerman.
Both of Trayvon’s suspensions during his junior year at Krop High involved crimes that could have led to his prosecution as a juvenile offender. However, Chief Charles Hurley of the Miami-Dade School Police Department (MDSPD) in 2010 had implemented a policy that reduced the number of criminal reports, manipulating statistics to create the appearance of a reduction in crime within the school system. Less than two weeks before Martin’s death, the school system commended Chief Hurley for “decreasing school-related juvenile delinquency by an impressive 60 percent for the last six months of 2011.” What was actually happening was that crimes were not being reported as crimes, but instead treated as disciplinary infractions. (cont.)
Either of those incidents could have put Trayvon Martin into the custody of the juvenile justice system. However, because of Chief Hurley’s attempt to reduce the school crime statistics — according to sworn testimony, officers were “basically told to lie and falsify” reports — Martin was never arrested. And if he had been arrested, he might never have been in Sanford the night of his fatal encounter with Zimmerman.
The FBI, after an investigation, has been unable to find any elements of racism in the case Zimmerman-Martin, contrary to the shouting by Holder, Sharpton, Obama, and other black racists. Wrong! When that young black 6’-2” criminal-in-the-making attacked the much smaller 5’-8” “white Hispanic” neighborhood watchman shouting “You’re gonna die tonight – creepy ass-cracker!!” – that was clearly a racist attack. And by that I mean Black Racism!
I truly believe that the following phrase was coined just for Eric Holder: "IT IS BETTER TO REMAIN SILENT AND BE THOUGHT A FOOL, THEN TO OPEN YOUR MOUTH AND REMOVE ALL DOUBT!!!!!"
The following information might be of interest: ''AS A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION, BLACKS HAVE BENEFITTED FAR MORE FROM STAND YOUR GROUND THAN WHITES!!!"
So when you take into account that in reality (not in Holder's or Obama's warped minds) Whites and especially Blacks are far more likely to be victims of a crime of violence, why on earth would these morons want to force people to go back to having to retreat, and retreat, and retreat before you can exercise you God given right to defend yourself or your family????? To stand your ground and say, hey you dirt bag!!! Either back off, or else!!! Or if you are in imminent danger of death or bodily harm, BLOW THE FREAKIN DIRT BAG AWAY!!! …….. I don't give a dam what the color of their skin is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is what "STAND YOUR GROUND IS ALL ABOUT!!! WE FOUGHT LONG AND HARD TO GET THESE LAWS PASSED, AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO STAND FOR A$$ HOLES LIKE ERIC HOLDER, BO, MIKEY BLOONEY-BERG, OR ANYONE ELSE FROM A "MUST RETREAT STATE TO COME DOWN HERE AND MESS WITH OUR LAWS!!!!!
YOU GOT THAT GOVERNOR SCOTT???????????????????
NEVER BEEN ONE TO SUGAR COAT IT!!!
"""""MOLON LABE!!!""""" (come and get them)
Take away Holder's armed security and see how fast he can run.
Want to know something truly racist? There were over 700' that is 700 black on black murders in Chicago from the night Travon Martin killing till the day Zimmerman was found not guilty. Have we heard a word about that racism? Nope.
It is "should have", not "should of". Go back to school please. The grammar of some people who post comments makes their nonsensical post that much harder to read.
Perhaps we should take another look at what Eric Holder, and his boss, BHO are really trying to do to the defense of this country.
The people who banded together to create this great country in which we have the most freedom on eath used weapons that were BETTER than the military arms of the day. The military muskets were accurate to about 50 yards and only in mass volleys were they effective at ranges of about 100 yards. In contrast the "long rifles" of both Kentucky and Pannsylvania were accurate to dinnerplates at 400 yards. The weapons of the U. S. military in both the first and second World Was, were the top of the line. The Japanese did not ty to invade the U. S. in the Seocnd World War because "there would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."
Now the current Muslim administration is trying to disarm the American population so that we can be easily invaded and we can not resist effctively. It is fomenting a race war with the aid of most of the incorrectly labeled "main stream media" They are misnamed because they are only promoting ultra left wing propaganda. A few years ago Obama stated without equivocatiion that he would support Islam over any other system if matters became serious. He has given many millions of our dollars to the Islamic countries, and many of our best fighter aircraft even when these are being used against our best interst.
At the same time he has prvented the publication of the established facts that a reduction in all violent crime has followed the requirement for issuance of permits to carry guns concealled on your person in each state that has followed Folrida in this reinforcement of your inividual right to protect yourself. This right is necessary as the Supreme Court has ruled that there is no reuirement for the police to protect you, or me.
Holder has also ignored the fact that he most useage of the Florida "Stand Your Gound" law has been by Blacks defending their family and propety, but it was not part of the Zimmerman defense and was not bought up by the prosecution.Obama and Holder are using an unconnected incident to attack another of our self protection laws.
It is also noticable tht although there are more muders in Chicago each year than the total of the American soldiers killed in Afghanistan , Chicago is not trgeted by the Administrton for prosectuion much less investigation of the misnamed "Gun Crime".
I was hoping someone would have (not would of) pointed that out, even though it is a very minor thing.
Incidentally, there should have (not should of) been a comma, when you wrote, "Go back to school, please."
Sorry, I couldn't help it. This is a serious subject. It's just that some of us old farts are still concerned with
things like proper punctuation and grammar and spelling, when we write and share ideas and opinions.
Holder probably got the job because he was obamy's friend, was black and carries a gun! The police cannot be everywhere at once. And it takes time to get to the scene of an attack. Z did what he HAD to do to keep from being beat to DEATH by a hoodlum LATE at nigh…
What you say is correct for today. In the past (when I was young), you clenched your fist and defended yourself. Or if you were in a bad area, a wooden club to bash some heads. Hopefully that was enough to even the odds since they seem to want to gang up on people.
Holder and obamy should be removed from their jobs. Neither is doing what is expected of them; unless you expect a good Golf game at least twice a week or a mega dollar vacation every two weeks……
Is the dispatcher a office of the law? Did the dispatcher immediately call for a squad car to investigate or did the dispatcher call after the perpetrator was shot?
First of all, people with lower extremity disabilities may not be able to "run". I know I can't run very fast or very far because I spent 22 years in the US Army Infantry. I even jumped out of a few "perfectly good aircraft" while assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division. Now, in reference to Zimmerman, it's difficult to "run" when you get knocked down and mounted by a near 200 lbs. attacker and he is slamming your head on the sidewalk. It's pretty impossible to run under those circumstances. NOT GUILTY! It was SELF DEFENSE!
Holder is a COWARD, period. He is protected by the other race baiting criminal in the administration, & BTW Good Ridance to Janet Napalatono, Berkely is a good place for her pesudo intelect, talk about being dumber than a box of dog hair (my apologies to the dog) She's the one who penned the instructions to the Borded Patrol agents that actually stated " when confronted by an active shooter situation, you should first attempt to run and hide behind something, failing that, try to distract the shooter by throwing something @ him, like your shoe" Think about this for a moment, these are Trained, Armed, Law Enforcement Agents, & her big idea is for them to hide & throw their shoe @ the shooter.maybe that's where Holder got the idea that we should run & hide like the bedwetting wimp he is.