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7,000 Abandoned Buildings in Dayton

Written by Gary North on May 14, 2013

In Dayton, Ohio, there are 7,000 abandoned buildings.

Because of federal asbestos controls, it costs $11,000 to demolish one building. So, they rot. The city is desperate. It cannot afford to demolish them. So, like a blight, the number of these buildings continues to grow.

This is the Keynesian economy at work. This is recovery.

What will it be like in the next recession? How about in the next depression?

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17 thoughts on “7,000 Abandoned Buildings in Dayton

  1. Ohio loves the Liberals/Democrats,let Obama and his Commie czars within administration take care of it.They know everything!

  2. Seymour Kleerly says:

    What should they do?

  3. Marc Jeric says:

    Among many phony scares propagated by our environmentalists is the scare of asbestos which is the best thermal insulation produced so far by nature or man. There are two kinds of asbestos – long-fiber one and short-fiber one. The first kind was mainly mined in Canada and used extensively in the United States for protecting steel structures from fire damage; this long-fiber kind of asbestos never hurt anybody because those long fibers physically cannot get inhaled and lodged in the lungs. The other, dangerous, short-fiber kind of asbestos came from other countries (South Africa, Soviet Union) and was never used in the United States. (cont.)

  4. Marc Jeric says:

    When protected by asbestos the steel beams, girders, and columns can withstand the intensive fire such as was produced by the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center buildings last September 11 for about 4 and ½ hours, thus giving ample time for evacuation. However, only the bottom 60 floors of the WTC were thus protected; the upper stories, where the terrorists struck, were protected with the substitute plastic insulation at the request of our ‘concerned environmentalists’. This substitute insulation gave only one hour of protection to the structure which promptly collapsed after about one hour of fire and thus caused the unnecessary death of about 3,000 innocent people who were not given enough time to evacuate the buildings.
    So how come that the families of those victims of another false environmentalist scare do not sue the real culprits of the WTC tragedy – the millionaire terrorist leaders and their unwitting accomplices, our ‘concerned environmentalists’?
    And our trial lawyer hyenas are still milking that canard to this day.

  5. MetaCynic says:

    There are substitute fire protection materials for asbestos which will give whatever protection building codes require. Perhaps back then asbestos was cheaper and provided better protection per inch of thickness than other materials did, but if the code calls for 4 hours of protection, then 4 hours of protection can and must be provided whatever the cost. If it's true that only one hour of protection was applied at the WTC where 4 hours was required, then the problem was fraud and not environmentalism. Fire protection must be a noncombustible material. Concrete, plaster, gypsum board and certain spray on materials are noncombustible, plastic is not and would not have been approved by UL.

  6. Buckeye says:

    I live in Dayton and was thinking the other day how great it was that the county was able to come up with a "new formula" for assessing property taxes back in 2011 that resulted in them collecting the same amount of property taxes from WAY, WAY, less people. And I was also thinking how great it was that my property taxes were raised again a few months ago because a majority of voters decided they wanted to build all brand new library buildings. It seems that the only thing that they have not been able to pass is the school levies. In addition to wanting to tear a lot of buildings down and not having the $ to do so unless it comes in the form of a federal grant, the county has also established a Land Bank to try and disposition these abandoned properties (expedite the foreclosure process and get new people living there who can pay taxes). Beyond that, there have been a lot of arsonists setting fire to vacant buildings and burning them to the ground. I guess that takes care of having to go through the special asbestos handling procedures.

  7. ken1lutheran says:

    OK, I can buy that the dangerous kind of asbestos was never produced in the US. But thousands of people in the US developed asbestosis. So someone was using the dangerous kind in the US.

  8. ken1lutheran says:

    It won't. It takes the building down–but the land itself becomes even more unusable, as all these materials are now on the ground, and, with years of rain, go into the ground. These vacant lots are then permanent eyesores. You can't sell them, because no one can build on them, and nobody wants to spend the money to remove those wastes–the vacant lot would be worth less than it had cost to clean it up. At least the derelict buildings keep the various residues from entering the ground and gradually spreading contamination to adjoining properties. I know–small comfort, because those buildings scare off any property investor. The problem is the result of first too little regulation and then too much.

  9. There are hundreds of government office buildings in D.C. that are fully staffed with hundreds of politicians and hundreds of thousands of bureaucrats. And yet still completely empty and devoid of human intelligence.

  10. Re: Seymour Kleerly,
    — What should they [the Dayton government] do? —

    They only have to wait until the Federal government goes bankrupt and thus without the means to enforce their own environmental codes. THEN they should be able to demolish the buildings or let the owners demolish them without fear of harassment from some Federal bureaucrat, as most of the Federal bureaucrats will be either washing windows for coins or looking for stray children to eat.

  11. How is this a "Keynesian problem"? I presume there's no restrictions for private individuals to step in renovate or demolish these buildings. Undoubtedly, the builders thought they were doing people a favor at the time by making the building fireproof yet unknowingly spread a dangerous material around. After all, people in certain places still have to careful when radium was all the rage in the olden days.

  12. Margaret jacobson says:

    It must be working !! In Baltimore city , we call it "vacant to value ". ……burning might work better?? Exception in Baltimore city is that the city owns about 16000 vacant houses !! They can't sell most of them or insure them ?? No gain either way !

  13. Now compare Dayton to Hiroshima, a city that was once nuked into a pile of rubble. Today Hiroshima is a vibrant city, but Dayton a liberal disaster. Liberalism must fall on the trash heap of history, once and for all, as a lesson in the 'social experimentation' of mankind. IT DOES NOT WORK, and IT WILL NEVER WORK, no matter HOW MANY TIMES IT IS TRIED, IT WILL ALWAYS FAIL.

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