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Gun Show Background Checks: Senate Bill Is Getting Closer

Written by Gary North on April 11, 2013

With liberal media fanfare, the Senate bill to mandate background checks at gun shows is getting closer to a vote.

If this bill becomes law, it will gun down gun shows. If you can’t buy a gun without a background check, you can’t buy a gun at a gun show. The show will be over before the check is complete.

Is this going to pass the Republican-controlled House of Representatives. Probably not. Is this fact mentioned by the media? No. Why not? That would make the Senate debate look like a charade. Is it a charade? Yes. It’s all about positioning for the folks back home. The justification? The Newtown shootings.

But the killer in Newtown stole the guns from his mother. He also killed his mother. What has that got to do with gun shows? Nothing. That, too, is a charade.

Senator Pat Toomey, who backs the bill, says it’s not a gun control measure. Oh, no. It’s merely a “common sense” measure. Senator Toomey usually gets an A-rating from the National Rifle Association. If he ever gets anything higher than an F, then it’s the NRA that deserves the F.

Gun sales are higher than ever before. Americans know it’s not common sense in the Senate. It’s the next phase of gun control.

There will be gun shows across America this spring. You would be wise to attend one. Bring $100 bills. You will need a lot of them. The days of cheap guns are over.

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27 thoughts on “Gun Show Background Checks: Senate Bill Is Getting Closer

  1. not sure what the new bill would propose regarding background checks that isn't already the practice, at least in florida… we have bought several guns at shows here and each had a background check and a three day waiting period for handguns… individuals walking around with guns may sell them, and they are neither trained or equipped to do background checks, and there in lies the rub… requiring them to do background checks would just be unbridled government over reach and an opportunity to assign blame after the fact… that's why I don't trust these morons with an ink pen… its never what they tell you, its what they don't tell you that contains their liberty destroying agenda… we have been played by politicians from both sides with their little charades and back room deals… transparency my ass…

  2. If I want to sell a hammer, why does GUBMINT need to be involved??

  3. Phillip the Bruce says:

    Weapons of Mass Destruction = the pens Obama (or any President) uses to sign unconstitutional laws.

  4. I live in Virginia and there are a lot of gun shows here. From going to them, I can tell you, the vast majority of gun purchases at the gun shows are from gun dealers not private individuals. Yes you do see some people carrying guns with signs that they are for sale, but the majority of transactions are taking place at the gun dealer tables.

    So, even though I am opposed to the legislation or attempt at it, I am far from convinced that this legislation would end gun shows…at least here in Virginia, which is the state that Bloomberg goes after the most because of the "gun show loop hole." It should also be mentioned that, more people do private sales away from gun shows than at gun shows. The percentage of people buying guns from a private party at a gun show in Virginia has to be in the very low percentages of overall gun sales.

  5. The Second Amendment right will never protect us from the those who want to, have been, and are incrementally disarming Americans. Think about it: The amendment with the wording "shall not be infringed" is the most infringed, licensed, and limited amendment of all twenty seven. Our only hope is taking serious our non-optional God-expected responsibility to bear arms in defense of ourselves, our families, and our neighbors, such as the one described by the Apostle Paul to Timothy:

    "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house [beginning first with spiritual protection and second with physical protection], he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel." (1 Timothy 5:8)

    Listen to "The Second Amendment: A Knife in a Gunfight," recently preached at the Springfield, Missouri, Firearms and Freedom Symposium at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.com/#FeaturedM…. You will also find an interview Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners of America, conducted with me on this same issue.

  6. US_ArmyE8_ret says:

    Words have meanings! If those meanings are bastardized all becomes chaos.
    Definition of to KEEP: to hold or retain in one's possession; hold as one's own.
    Definition of to BEAR: to carry, transmit, transport, have a characteristic of and exhibit.
    Definition of INFRINGE: to “encroach” upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another.
    Read the meaning!!!
    Definition of ENCROACH: 1: to enter by gradual steps or by stealth into the possessions or rights of another. 2: to advance beyond the usual or proper limits

    BE HONEST…see anything like this going on? Everyone needs to LEARN the English language. Why is this so hard to understand? The meaning of the words in the Second Amendment HAVE NOT changed since the amendment was ratified. I am NOT aware of the Second Amendment being repealed or amended.

  7. US_ArmyE8_ret says:

    In reference to arms control by the states, the Fourteenth Amendment Section 1 is crystal clear: Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. NO STATE shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Many politicians and/or judges cite “precedent” as a justification for the violations of our rights as contained in The Constitution of These United States of America. Precedent only describes what has been done, NOT if it was done in compliance with the supreme law of the land or in accordance with the oath of office to uphold The Constitution.

  8. US_ArmyE8_ret says:

    The signers of the Declaration concluded their treatise, “We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states… And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.” Do WE citizens, INHERITORS of the Republic bequeathed us, STILL stand ready to hazard even HALF so much?

  9. Bill Smith says:

    The only way “Universal Background Checks” can be enforced is if all firearms bought and sold are included in a registry. That may not be included in this version of legislation but if not, it will be “snuck in” under some future bill without much media fanfare. Buy and sell your weapons in the gun show parking lot while you can!

  10. US_ArmyE8_ret says:

    “Gun control” is NOT about guns, it's about CONTROL of people, law-abiding people…because criminals, by definition, ignore laws! So, before you or anyone else attempts to convince me that we somehow need new gun laws (or that new gun laws will actually “make us safer” by reducing gun “carnage”), you must first convince me that violent criminals and the mentally deranged will abide by your new gun laws any more than they abide by all of the restrictive gun laws on the books now.

  11. awkingsley says:

    There should be no background checks and no Gun Control. Criminals can always get guns, so background checks do not deter them. Controls need to be placed on mental health professionals instead.

    Knowledge in expert Oriental or Ayurvedic Pulse Diagnosis, Kinesiology, and Iridology will allow mental health professional to make a definitive determination of mental illness, and start our medical system in a direction of cures instead of incompetent palliatives that never cure. Compassionate care is making the physicians upgrade, so accurate diagnosis can be made.

    Unfortunately, our health care is all trauma and sepsis – last resort medicine and bacterial infections. Allopathic Medicine has absolutely no treatment for chronic disease, which is why we have all of these shootings. Only Natural and Alternative Medicine has treatment for chronic disease, but Allopathic Physicians have no ability to ascertain that because they lack expert diagnostic skills. The foremost of those diagnostic skills is expert Oriental or Ayurvedic Pulse Diagnosis. With expert pulse diagnosis, a physicians can define the area of the body from which the disease originates, progression of the disease, and the efficacy of treatment protocols. An expert pulse diagnostician can even determine if a woman is pregnant within 24 hours of conception. This lack of diagnostic skills is why thousands of patients are diagnosed as mentally ill every year when they are not. The medical system on which we are relying is pathetic, so we have a large number of mentally disabled people who are not cured.

    Contact your state legislators, and ask them to mandate medical schools to train first year medical students in expert diagnostic techniques. Those are expert Oriental or Ayurvedic Pulse Diagnosis, Kinesiology (saliva testing), and Iridology. Kinesiology can help a physician to determine effective medications. Iridology provides a quick check for disease – mental and other chronic disease or complaints. Blaming religion or religious people does not handle the job. Blaming Allopathic Physicians is the cure. Soaking tax payers for incompetent mental health care is a crime. Gun Control in any shape or form is deadly to citizens living under a tyrannical Police State, such as the one we now have in the United States. Proof of this is the DHS purchase of 2,700 light armored tanks to use against citizens of the United States.

  12. What a bunch of leftist hooey ! I challenge any one of these Washington a$$holes to go to a gun show and purchase a firearm without the seller phoning in a background check. Lefties cannot be honest about their real intentions to disarm the general populace. Don't be fooled !
    “Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with the view of confiscating them and leaving the population defenseless.” — Vladimir Lenin

  13. You have that right !
    “Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.” — Janet Reno, former U.S. Attorney General

    “We must brainwash people on guns. We just have to be repetitive about this. It’s not enough to have a catchy ad on a Monday and then only do it every Monday. We have to do this every day of the week and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.”
    —Eric Holder, United States Attorney General

    “If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out-right ban, picking up every one of them… ‘Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,’ I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t there.”
    —Dianne Feinstein, Senator (D-CA)

  14. MI Ptriot says:

    They tell you the background checks won't let the gov't take our guns. What they are NOT telling you is that when they run a background check, your info will go into a gov't database. They now know where every gun owner in America lives,,,except the illegals and the criminals who don't obey laws. Background checks equal gun confiscation.

  15. That is why you use a ghost address and not your living address.

  16. I'm disappointed in Senator Toomey. A lot of us suffered scathing remarks from friends about that "right wing kook" but sent him money and voted for him.

    If Senator Toomey had butted out the Senate would have Charles Schumer's nasty stealth gun registry. Instead they got half a loaf that can be quietly amended into Schumer's registry.

    I would support Senator Toomey if he repents. I have one cheek to turn. He does it again he's going to put Pennsylvania into a pickle – another Senator Casey or a Senator Toomey who is almost a Senator Casey.

  17. I think that the Form 4473 asks for your Residence. If not the PA State Police form definitely asks enough to ID you.

    Better to play it straight and seek safety in numbers. Nothing will get your rousted faster than getting a Rap that even most gun owners would consider "shady".

    If people want "anonymous" firearms they can make their own out of parts kits. I have not checked lately but a lot of parts kits are out there. Buy one and roll your own.

  18. 2WarAbnVet says:

    Passing a law that:
    1) infringes on individual rights
    2) will accomplish/prevent nothing
    3) is largely unenforceable
    4) will criminalize otherwise law-abiding citizens
    is the height of arrogance and stupidity.

  19. AmericanIcon says:

    It's fairly obvious anyone can write with absolutely no knowledge of the subject and get published by those with even less. Any dealer who sells at a gun show is subject to the same laws as if he were selling at his place of business, which require the completion of a Form 4473 AND AN NICS CHECK or possession of a current, in-state CCW.

  20. Anyone supporting any more infringement on the 2nd amendment needs to be prosecuted for constitutional treason , if not in this illegal administration , then by a legitimate administration in the future . Just keep the names list and wait for the right time for payback .

  21. Seymour Kleerly says:

    You're a Ditto Head I see!

  22. awkingsley says:

    At this point, in the interest of patient advocacy, I would stop short of open competition. To my knowledge, none of the Alternative Medical Practitioners know all of the Alternative Medical Diagnostic Techniques, having opted instead to learn treatment information. A few know 2 alternative diagnostic techniques, but there are very few who are also expert in pulse diagnosis. All medical practitioners need to be mandated to learn all of the Alternative Diagnostic Techniques not just M.Ds.; however, Psychiatrists have complete control of mental illness in some states, and mental illness was the particular area of medicine I was addressing. In other words, I do not believe it is safe to open medicine up to competition, until all physicians have more training. The problem works both ways. Remember, Allopathic does have Standards of Best Practice, but Natural and Alternative Medicine do not. Every physician needs expert pulse diagnosis, in order to provide good patient care.

  23. u ass holes already have gun show background checks we don't need more with more hiddenbills in them

  24. Most dealers at gun shows are FFL holders and MUST do the background checks! Those that are doing private sales are much fewer and some do the same selling at flea markets and the like if the state in question allows those type of sales. Some states (like NJ) effectively prohibit private sales period. Not sure what this is except more disinformation from the gun grabbing crowd and the fellow travelers in the alleged "media". Also, there are a lot of other sales at gun shows including ammo, accessories, reloading supplies, hunting gear, etc that have little to do with firearms transfers at all! The problem here is the "fine print" in the as yet unpublished bill that has huge negative effects and will go on the floor at the last minute with a rush to pass it without reading it let alone discussing it like ObamaCare, Dodd-Fwank, and the rest of the idiotic legislation that both parties are pushing through. .

  25. AmericanIcon says:

    The 'universal background check' is just a smokescreen. As pointed out numerous times, any FFL, whether selling at his shop or at a gun show uses the same federal form 4473, and calls in for the same NICS check. What this does is make a felon of anyone who buys his kid a new .22 and doesn't have the pre-teen run through a 'background check', anyone who inherits a firearm from a deceased relative without going through a 'background check', anyone who goes on a trip and leaves his firearms with a neighbor for safekeeping without running him through a 'background check', anyone who lets someone else fire one of his guns at a range or loans it to a friend for a weekend hunt without running a 'background check'…And just to make things more interesting, federal law prohibits any licensed firearms dealer from running that 'background check' for any firearm not in his inventory, and any non-dealer from accessing the system.
    Just another way you're being made a felon with the mere stroke of a pen and 'authorizing' the illegal confiscation of firearms from a formerly 'free' people.

  26. stopthemadness says:

    Why can't we get a bill to right the wrong and repeal the current background checks? They are a huge mistake and too many gun advocates have been sucked into the compromise that is expensive and infringes on the rights we all have. If we could steer the debate back to why have checks at all, we could use the expamples that have not worked….and the bigger question is….if we expand them to include all sales and a check for mental illness…how do we follow up? You may be stable today and buy 5 guns, next year you get divorced, lose your job and file bankruptcy and snap with a mass shooting against your employer….what good did the background check do and what did it cost? We need to understand that cars kill, airplanes kill, guns kill….get over it….we take risks every day….learn to take care of yourself and your family.

  27. Gary North: "But the killer in Newtown stole the guns from his mother. He also killed his mother. "

    Posted this on another blogg repeating the same lie, it bears repeating here:

    Although you're overall point may have been well intended, what you have done here is continue the lies contained in the official story and propagated by the MSM in order to make that point.

    There is no proof of any of the your above statements. In fact, there's more evidence of it being a planned and staged event than what you claim happened, i.e., that Lanza was the perpetrator !

    The official story is filled with holes and contradictions.

    The Coroner said all wounds were ".223" and, if you can believe this, "designed to lodge in the body". Yeah right, at close range traveling over 3,000 ft./sec.

    There's also the reports that the .223 rifle was found in the car. He also said the parents were not allowed to see the bodies, only pictures! Since when is positive body I.D. made by photo?!

    What about the other shooters reported on the police scanner?! I could go on with multiple examples of holes in the official story.

    My point is this: Here you've condemned someone, and further propagated the lies, based upon an official story with more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese, who never had a chance to defend against them.

    Lanza is now defenseless and vulnerable to any and all allegations perpetrated against him based upon this staged false flag event, and you are a contributor thereto with such statements based upon contradictory and even ridiculous claims.

    "One man's case appears to be just, until another cross examines him."