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Aurora, Colorado vs. Kennesaw, Georgia: Guns and Crime

Written by Gary North on July 24, 2012

It’s a tale of two cities.

First, Aurora, Colorado. The city is in the news.

It is not in the news for this. Here is a list of laws that the city has passed several years ago. The following are prohibited.

1. “Dangerous weapon” includes firearm

2. Revocation of license for furnishing a firearm to a minor or someone under the influence.

3. Window displays cannot include firearms with barrels less than 12 inches long.

4. Unlawful to carry concealed “dangerous weapon”

5. Unlawful to discharge firearms, unless by law enforcement on duty or on shooting range.

6. Unlawful to possess firearm while under the influence of intoxicant

7. Unlawful to have loaded firearm in motor vehicle.

8. Unlawful for a juvenile to possess a firearm.

http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/munilaws.htm

As Dr. Phil likes to say, “How’s that working for you?”

Disarmed, the movie theater’s patrons were defenseless.

The murderer broke this law: “Unlawful to discharge firearms, unless by law enforcement on duty or on shooting range.” I guess he will be prosecuted under this law.

The patrons, law-abiding all, were shot to pieces. None of the survivors will be prosecuted. They obeyed the law.

This is gun control in action.

In contrast, is Kennesaw, Georgia. It passed a law in 1982 requiring residents to own a handgun. Crime fell. It has stayed down.

Gaey DeMar writes:

I live just a few miles from the most pro-gun city in the United States – Kennesaw Georgia – where gun ownership is mandatory. It’s not the “Wild West” like some people predicted when it passed a mandatory gun ownership law. “The city of Kennesaw was selected by Family Circle magazine as one of the nation’s ‘10 best towns for families.’ The award was aimed at identifying the best communities nationally that combine big-city opportunities with suburban charm, a blend of affordable housing, good jobs, top-rated public schools, wide-open spaces, and less stress.”[1]

In 1982 the city passed the following ordinance [Sec 34-21] which was in response to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill.

(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.

(b) Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.

The city’s website states that Kennesaw “has the lowest crime rate in Cobb County,” one of the most populace counties in Georgia. In fact, from 1982 through 2009, Kennesaw had been nearly murder free with one murder occurring in 2007.

Where would you rather live?

I live close to Kennesaw. I used to live in Colorado, before the gun control zealots took over. I feel a lot safer where I live today.

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52 thoughts on “Aurora, Colorado vs. Kennesaw, Georgia: Guns and Crime

  1. PaulthePatriot says:

    At least Kennesaw passed ordinances or laws which protect the law abiding citizen instead of allowing them to be defenseless against crazed shooters who have no respect for the law. No matter what happens, if the Second Amendment is suspended, then only the criminals will have weapons. God save us from our own Government! Hurry 6 November, come quickly! Let's not only try to get the White House back, but also the Senate and pray we keep the House!

    • Evermyrtle says:

      Guns are not dangerous, guns do not kill. Instead of pulling the guns, start to work on people and when you find one that is dangerous to himself or to the public, do something about that person. Because those who are responsible for such people,refuse to do their jobs, we all are threatened. It was not a secret that this man had big problems, it is, that those that knew it, did not know what to to do, or were afraid, for some reason to do it and did nothing!. Therefore, don't remove harmless guns remove that people that use the guns. You can use a innocent gun, knife, ax, hammer, belt for strangulation, to kill, but until the '"HUMAN USES THEM THEY WILL NOT MOVE, THEY CAN DO NO HARM" Will we wake up before it is do late?? Is this a deliberate war against America.?

      GOD is the answer. If we can only turn all thing over to HIM and have faith in HIM He will take care of us. But what do we do? We say, "Depart from America, we do not need you!! So why should GOD help people who do not want HIS help?
      How many of us have looked around and seen the change all conditions in America in the last 100 years and wonder, WHY????

      Did GOD depart? No, "HE IS STILL HERE, ALIVE AND WELL" and wil answer us if we call on HIM

      • LostProton says:

        Please do not say that "belt for strangulation" to loud because TSA is listening and will ban belts on airplanes as well. If they take our belts they will also take our suspenders as well. Then they will take our pencils next. If you are a black belt in karate, they will put handcuffs on you during the flight, that will make that trip to the rest room a difficult trip.

    • Indiana_James says:

      Actually there will be SOME that will BECOME 'criminals' because WE WILL NOT surrender our (at the moment) LEGALLY OWNED firearms. The NRA says it best: From my cold,dead hands will be the ONLY way I'll ever give up my gun. If obumbles&co want a new civil war,…Thats the SURE way to start it.

    • Doglover says:

      Paul, You are absolutely right!

  2. USA Born & Raised says:

    Amen and Amen.

  3. Gary Burley says:

    Kennesaw is a one horse town with about 1000 people living in it. It's not New York City – but because the ordinance which has been there forever and is wildly ignored, its thankfully not The Wild Bunch either.

  4. Gary Burley says:

    I live here Dee – 30,000 college kids who stay for a couple of months then go home. I also haven't seen a gun in the 2 years I've been here.

    • AD Roberts says:

      That does not mean that the guns are not there. And the criminal types know it. Just that situation makes the town safer.

  5. Actually, this is not true: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/StatePatrol-

    Not since 2003 when the Colorado legislature removed Aurora’s restrictive gun statutes. Along with other Colorado cities.

    • Actually, Michael, you are in error. Colorado does have a state law allowing CCW, but Aurora is one of 12 Colorado cities where that law does NOT apply, so crazies like Holmes whose brains have been fried on antidepressants are free to shoot up all the unarmed helpless citizens they want.

      • Then, how do you explain the verbiage at the top of Gary’s embedded link?

        • Plus Aurora is the ONE city in Colorado that in addition to barring CCW, also forbids residents to carry a gun in the glovebox of their vehicles, so Holmes was doubly assured that once he started his rampage noone would be running to their cars to get a weapon to defend themselves and others with.

  6. Art Genneken says:

    Gary you don't know what your talking about.Kennesaw is not a one horse town. You must be a liberal that can't get or use a gun, or want to where you live.No it's not NY city and it doesn't want to be so liberal controlled, they can't even protect their families.I live within miles of Kennesaw and I carry and have a permit to do so.Do you?

    • Gary Burley says:

      hell no. And I'm a card-carrying member of the Cherokee Republican Party but I don't want insane people to be able to buy guns and ammo at the click of a mouse.

      • Gary Burley says:

        Forget their rights – what about my rights (and those of Aurora, West Virginia Tech, Colombine etc) to not get shot by crazy people?

        • Patriot1776 says:

          The best offense is a good defense. In Aurora, West Virginia Tech, Colombine, etc. if there had been trained citizens carrying guns, at the very least the violence would have been shortened. At the very best, the shootings would not have happened at all. Each of the shooters in each case went in knowing that they were the only ones armed. They are cowards and choose to shoot at victims that they knew could not return fire.

        • Cherokee huh, how did that work for the Tsa la gi people when Jackson carted them off to OK????? No one in this would can buy guns' at the click of a mouse. You been induldging in the fire water too long????

          Didn't know the Chreokee had a party Republican or otherwise…. What I am is an American and I don't like the Retards nor the Demoncrats cause they both are bought by the Money Cartel. The Fed and George Soros work for the same people. We have been enslaved to a interest bearing debt system since Washington allowed Hamilton to talk him into it. Jackson killed the Bank of the US and it was the first time we were debt free with out a deficit in our history. After he was turned out the Bankers went at it again, so here we are.

        • Read Jackson's Veto Message and see how it rings so typically true. Also we are armed to keep the politicians honest.. What do you think Obama and the rest of those SOBs would be up to if we were not???? I am from Viking, Irish Scotts and Cherokee descent, I am well armed and a cantankerous SOB. Being a warrior is in my genetic makeup and being righteously P'ed about these whimpy people whining about being vicitms is about all I can take. Nut up or shut up…

          • Texas Chris says:

            I cannot conceive of how any Native American could be anti-gun. Of all of us on this continent, THEY are the ones who have had the hardest lessons, taught at the hands of white men like myself. They above all others should embrace self-defense, followed closely by the Jewish people…

    • While Gary quibbles over semantics, dozens of innocents die needlessly. And he's not just a member of the GOP, he's a "card-carrying" member! I can almost hear the click of his goose-stepping spit-polish boots.

      • Texas Chris says:

        I'm a card-carying member of the GOP as well. Literally.

        I'm also a libertarian of the Ron Paul sort, and am a Republican for the same reason as he.

  7. The link provided in the article above states that the restrictive Aurora laws were preempted by Colorado state law in 2003:

    “In 2003, the state legislature and the governor deemed that the power to address gun violence in Colorado through laws SHALL NOT be in the domain of the affected communities,
    rather it should rest only in the hands of the state.  By this legislation (SB03-25),
    all of the ordinances on this list have been declared unenforceable.”

    How did that get missed?

    • brojer72 says:

      The correct term is gun abuse. The term "Gun violence" is not only bad english, (You wouldn't say car violence or knife violence or even rock violence if these items were used in a crime) It also implies that the technology is somehow at fault. I urge all who hear this term on the media send an email to the presenter correcting them.

  8. I remember the liberals hollering when Kennesaw passed the Ordinance. Now that the Pro-Gun ordinance has been a roaring success, you don't hear a peep out of the knucklehead libs.

  9. William 1 says:

    Then all the council members who voted them in are guilty of murdering Amerivan citizens as they violated their Constitutional rights by passing those illegal laws-sue the hell outta them!

  10. I have a difficult time understanding the need to be armed. If every citizen of this country was armed, wouldn't we have more accidental deaths than deliberate killings? Statistics tell us more people are killed each day by automobile accidents than by armed conflict (war). I think I know I'm a pacifist. I'll take my chances with being unarmed and putting my faith in Love.
    How many people are statistically killed each day by Love? Forgive my intelligence friends. I'm not driven by the fear of guns
    God bless and keep you safe..

    • Patriot1776 says:

      Jay B., fortunately we live in a wonderful nation and you have the right to go unarmed. However, if you ever end up in a situation like the Aurora shooting, you will probably be hoping that there is at least one person available, armed and trained to use. The fact is, if there was at least one armed person trained and willing to shoot back in that theater, there would be less people dead and wounded.

    • So you are saying that your love protects you more than say Gandi or maybe Jesus… what a moron. I will admit that you vision-I said your vision and certainly not some individual in Colorado, is a pretty one. I can see you now walking up to this blood thursty criminal and telling him all you need is love, too. Even Gandi said that to be armed and to allow murder to happen is a sin.

      All of us are armed so you can have your vision… idiot.

      Did you parents have any children that weren't born brain dead?????

    • What homosexual activists call "love," (as in "No one has the right to tell me who I can love") has killed quite a number of people.

      Trusting in love is very risky these days, given the fact that the Newspeak people have muddied up the very idea of what love is all about..

      I have no gun by choice because I am not trained in how to use one, but I'm considering getting one, ever since politicans started telling me how full of hope I'd be after they changed things so as to take my life savings. Now that's real love.

    • AD Roberts says:

      Let's see. In the context of love, you might include the Muslims who "love" their Allah. Under that qualification, you have hundreds of thousands killed each year by "love".

    • Texas Chris says:

      There are 30,000 deaths in car accidents every year on interstate highways, but you don't hear of anyone calling for a ban on cars.

      (Well, except for the watermelons at the EPA)

  11. 2WarAbnVet says:

    Can someone cite an example when any single one of the over 20,000 gun laws we have in our country has ever deterred a criminal who is intent on creating havoc?

  12. The Russians have a proverb which has stood the course of time. It is the following, "A bullet from a gun does not kill a human, a human kills a human."

  13. On KSTP.com there is a poll:
    POLL: In Wake of the Colorado Tragedy, Should There be Stricter Gun Control Laws?
    http://kstp.com/article/stories/S2701505.shtml?ca

  14. […] google_color_bg = ""; google_color_text = ""; google_color_url = ""; google_ui_features = "rc:0"; teapartyeconomist.com / By Gary North / July 24, 2012It’s a tale of two cities.First, Aurora, Colorado. The city is in […]

  15. Kennesaw, GA. Has a population of just under 30,000 and has ONE murder by gun since the law was passed. New York, Chicago and DC have the stricktest gun laws and have the highest murder rate by gun. Chicago has more murders in one day than Afganistan has in a month.

  16. It's not CO or Aurora Law that is the problem in this case. The problem is a psycho bent on destruction and a private property owner who has determined to have a national policy forbidding guns in the theaters.

    The perpetrator should be hanged in public and the public should avoid the cinema until its no longer profitable and they pull up stakes in Aurora. Then maybe a sensible person will buy the building….

  17. LISTEN TO:

    * TruNews with Rick Wiles (Including the archives).
    * The PowerHour with Joyce Riley.
    * Politics & Religion with Irvine Baxter.

  18. You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

  19. jimpeel7734 says:

    "The city’s website states that Kennesaw “has the lowest crime rate in Cobb County,” one of the most populace counties in Georgia."

    Why is it that authors never seem to know the difference between "populace" and "populous?" Their spell checker will not save them because the spelling is correct. It is the context that is wrong.

  20. […] say if there had just been some concealed carriers the violence could have been squelched. Not when obtaining a firearm is as difficult as getting…a degree in […]

  21. […] Aurora, Colo., has some of its State’s most stringent gun laws: […]

  22. […] gun laws nor police saved movie-shooting victims. Aurora, Colo., has some of its State’s most stringent gun laws: “Dangerous weapons” including firearms prohibited.Revocation of license for […]

  23. […] Aurora, Colo., has some of its State’s most stringent gun laws: […]

  24. David Forward says:

    Please note: this is a letter to Bob Livingston (Personal Liberty Digest) who took incorrect info from your site and repeated in his newsletter — funny how incorrect "facts" seem to gain a life of their own.

    Dear Mr. Livingston —

    I am a great admirer of your work. Usually it is based on verifiable fact and then debated based on interpretation and philosophical views.

    However, you repeated some of the most often presented, incorrect laws concerning gun laws in Aurora, CO. In checking your reference source of this incorrect information I find that they used the same source as virtually all of the incorrect writers have used to substantiate their claims: specifically, the document found at http://www.coloradoceasefire.org/munilaws.htm . If one takes the time to read the opening paragraphs of that document, it is lamenting the fact that the municipal laws on this list have been PREEMPTED by the state legislature in 2003 when the new "SHALL ISSUE" Concealed Carry laws, and new self defense laws went into effect covering ALL of Colorado. In other words, all of the laws on that page are no longer enforceable — they are null and void under the new state statutes. Please see a general discussion of the new, applicable laws at: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/StatePatrol-

    The responsibility for no self defense guns being available in the Century 16 theater complex to face the false-flag psyops of James Holmes is that of the CineMark Corporation alone.

    The theater complex at Century 16 is posted with the announcement "No Firearms Allowed." It is their legal right under the current laws of Colorado. Century 16, by electing this option as a private enterprise made the knowledgeable decision to make their property a civilian victim disarmament zone for the safety and convenience of any visiting nefarious or psychopathic mass murderers. The City of Aurora had no say in this designation of the theaters being a free fire zone.

    The possible penalty for a holder of a CCW carrying a gun into the theater and being discovered would be a misdemeanor arrest for trespass and/or disturbing the peace (normally you are just asked to leave and return unarmed, and if compliant the matter is resolved). If convicted of either of those misdemeanor charges one's CCW can be suspended for an indeterminate period of time before reapplying (paying all new fees, new classes and review by the CBI — and getting your gun back!).

    I personally know of three individuals who were in the theater the night of the shooting who all have concealed carry permits and normally have a self defense gun on their person. However, as typical, being law abiding citizens they left their weapons locked in their vehicles while in the theater. And also as typical, the shooter ignored the sign…

    While I would like to see a correction on the Aurora laws issued by you, none of the other "conservative" writers I've asked for a similar correction have deemed it necessary. It seems as if the writers on the right are now taking a page from the progressive's handbook and going with anything as fact that defends their position.

    Best regards,
    David R. Forward
    Aurora, CO
    303.667.5349
    dol/lac

  25. […] Law enforcement also claims Holmes sent a package to a psychiatrist that outlined his plans. But stories about that are being changed faster than a baby’s diaper: It sat on a dock; it sat in a mail room; it didn’t get there until Monday. The bodies had not even been removed from the theater before New York City nanny Mayor Michael Bloomberg was calling for stronger gun-control laws and encouraging police officers to go on strike until gun laws were passed. Of course, neither strong gun laws nor police saved movie-shooting victims. Aurora, Colo., has some of its State’s most stringent gun laws: […]

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