Tebowing. It’s a menace to society. So says the police department in New York City.
Police arrested 43 New York City pastors and lay people on Jan. 12 who were protesting the city’s ban on church use of public schools for worship services. The ban is scheduled to go into effect Feb. 12.
The arrests came after more than 200 people gathered in the rain outside a Bronx public school where New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg was giving his state of the city address. After singing songs and cheering speeches, protesters walked out in orderly groups of five to eight to kneel in front of barricades and pray. Police warned them to leave and then made arrests on charges of disorderly conduct.
The city of New York is running a huge deficit. It needs money. But it does not need it badly enough to let churches rent abandoned public school buildings.
Here is the issue.
The New York Board of Education has banned religious use of schools on Sunday mornings or at other times the schools are otherwise unused — even though the churches rent the space, dropping an estimated several million dollars per year into the city cashbox. If the ban prevails, more than 150 congregations will have to move to other meeting space starting next month — and that’s hard to find in New York City.
The week before, police arrested New York City Councilman and pastor Fernando Cabrera, pastor Bill Devlin, and five others on charges of “criminal trespassing.” Their alleged trespass was kneeling and singing two hymns outside the doors of the New York City Law Department. Police held them in custody for three hours.
Their prayers were answered. Partially.
The following day, the New York Housing Authorities reversed its position to evict churches that meet inside community centers. Board of Education officials stuck with their ban on churches, though, saying it will protect the minds of “impressionable youth.”
Ah, yes. For the children. Keep them from going to church.
Bronx pastor Dimas Salberrios said the ban would be particularly harmful in poorer communities: Churches in boroughs like Queens and the Bronx successfully battle crime and poverty, and uprooting them is “destructive.” He pointed to lower crime rates, help for the poor and homeless, and educational assistance for children as examples of what churches contribute.
This argument fell on deaf ears. The ban will remain in place.
People just do'nt care any more. It's sooooo easy to turn their backs and walk away. Shame on you BOE.
There comes a time, as it did in Biblical times, where you brush the dust from your feet and leave the area. Are there people who need churches, who need to hear God's word? Of course, but when the city comes against you, then it is time to leave. I don't believe that there is any benefit in wasting God's money on areas that don't want it. When crime increases and things go to hell in a handbasket, they can see for themselves that they made wrong choices. It is called tough love. Back off and let them fail. I think NYC is beyond redemption and God has turned them over to the devil.
You've got to be kidding me. OWS protest good, rent money from churches Bad? Where has the common sense gone ?
I disagree; if we don't fight everywhere we can, we may end up no longer having anywhere to fight. Or, in other words, never concede to evil. Every time someone concedes to evil, it only gets stronger.
this is called a hate crime on churches; time to impeach; not just obama but bloomberg
What they really mean is that Christians are easier to control than bowing Muslims. Muslims love to kill and if the police mess with them while they cover the street with people bowing down the police know that they are quite likely to see extreme retaliation from them. Christians simply do their best to make a valid point.
Mari Owen, the Bible tells us these words: "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15). It does NOT say just go into the parts of the world where it is comfortable. THAT is tough love and it may be extremely tough on the one that anwers the call to "GO". We do not see that our message will always be well received every place that we take it.
destroy values, morals, and good examples and the children are theirs for life. Save the impressional children form the lberal progressives
I wonder what the NYPD would have done to any occupy Wall Streeter's if they'd been caught Tebowing? The unmentionable things they were doing didn't seem to raise any NYC official's this much ire in relationship to this 'hedonistic' act by these clergymen.
Board of Education officials stuck with their ban on churches, though, saying it will protect the minds of “impressionable youth.” Protect from what?
So the occupiers can cause all kinds of mayhem but they have a "right" to demonstrate, live on private property without permission, use the park as a toilet, but Christians cannot demonstrate peacefully…they even get arrested! Just bring in the lions now and get it over with….
I suspect that they actually believe that they are protecting the children from the evils of belief in God. The educational establishment in America is explicitly liberal/progressive approaching Marxist. Militant atheism is a part of that political perspective.
Look at who the mayor of NYC is. Bloomberg…THAT is where the common sense has gone.
Wonder what the city would do to ANY muslim group (peaceful or not) that got out their prayer rugs and were praying towards Mecca?? And if they had so much as asked them any questions let alone arrest them. Think of the uproar we would be hearing and reading about from the mainstream (and leftwing as they are virtually the same) of 'religious insensitivity' by the city of New York. Just one more sign the apocalypse is near.
Oh boy – imagine arresting people who are praying on public property. It sure has made NY city a safer place to live. Funny how things are played out by those high level individual who are in charge. Bloomberg is way out there. I bet if they were the carpet praying muslims they would probably protect them (and they are the real danger). Also if they were part of OWS it would be ok no problem they can take dumps on the American Flag or anything else they wish to. Obummer and his crowd sure has made change in this country – they set it on the road to destruction. Obummer Bloomber and his cronies have got to go.
Why is it then that NY does not arrest hundreds of Muslims that block the streets doing their prayers every day in the city?
New York is not worth the effort to comment on – it is filled with more scum than the land of fruits and nuts
You are right. People who are not anti-God and see these anti-GOD things going on, simply buckle because of a lack of courage or because they just "don't care enough. "Christians we must get a hold on our faith and courage and speak out and act, before it is too late>"
Mari, You are correct. When HIS disciples went to a vicinity to preach the gospel and they refused to hear HIS WORD, they were to walk away shaking the dust off of their feet. Then, like now, no force was used, they only spoke HIS WORD. They were free to chose it or deny it.
I agree with Skyknight … why are the hundreds of Muslims that block streets while praying every day in that city? Why? Huh? Huh? Stupid, scare, intimidated NY police force … the same ones being lauded for heroism re 9/11??? Common sense is suddenly uncommon……….
The only way to make the point of how ridiculous this is is to get as many people from as many churches as possible throughout the city at key official sites – Police Departments, City Hall and so forth so that the city is faced with the choice of attempting to arrest massive numbers of people, or back off. Christians should be happy to have an opportunity to hold out their hands for the handcuffs. Gives us an opportunity to make our case.
Thank you for your courage, Tim Tebow. You have lit a fire.
Yet it's OK for Muslims in NYC to pray in the streets. Blocking traffic on Friday afternoons so that they can pray. Our governments (local and federal) are CLEARLY anti-Christian and do censor and inhibit Christina activities as much as do communist and Islamic governments.
WHAT ARE U DOING.MAKE UR RULING.I TRUST THIS BLOG IS FOR CHRIST HELP.IF NOT UR LIKE THOSE IN NYC.
Wait until God forbid another terrorist attack in New York City. That might change their minds.
Thanks to the Anti Christian Muslim barry, it will only get Worse until he is Voted OUT!! or IMPEACHED!
You are right. People who are not anti-God and see these anti-GOD things going on, simply buckle because of a lack of courage or because they just “don’t care enough. “Christians we must get a hold on our faith and courage and speak out and act, before it is too late>”
h.d.
Talk seems to be a waste of time.
Read your Bible, The Christ, said put up yur sword for now
Not ever.
He stated there will come a time to sell your cloak and
and buy your self a sword.
THE OWS COULD DO NO WRONG BUT THE " PARTY"AND CHURCH CAN DO NO RIGHT.
HOW MANY "T PARTY'S AND CHURCH PEOPLE GOT ARRESTED.
WHAT DID IT COET TO CLEAN UP AFTER THE "TPARTY "AND THE OWS
I believe so too Mari. New York and Washington DC are in the same evil boat together and hopefully they will both sink into the bowels of hell!
So how do we protect our children from the warped minds of their liberal nut case teachers??? If it were Muslims renting the schools no one would have the guts to ban them. So we arrest a couple of people for praying in front of a public building but we let huge groups of Muslims block streets and intersections so they can pray several times a day and no one does anything. The wrong people are being arrested and for darn sure the wrong people are in authority.
NEW YORK CITY….AMERICA'S TOILET BOWL. (and the next Detroit)
I think the churches should be kept out, along with such groups as the boyscouts.
Why you ask? Because our government and public funds shouldn’t be going to support hate groups. Boyscouts dont support gay and lesbian kids or families andost churches are the same.
Have the churches sign and agree to stop add speaking out and not accepting them a good people and non-sinners. Don’t want to so that? Then get non public buildings to peach your hate. Pretty simple isn’t it?
Lucifer is alive and well. His name is Michael Bloomberg.
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BLOOMBERG IS NUTS. HE HAS AN OVERBLOWN RADICAL AGENDA.
PUT HIM IN FRONT OF ONE OF HIS IRRADIATING CAMERAS UP THERE IN TIMES SQUARE
AND LET IT UNRAVEL HIS DNA – LIKE IT DOES TO ALL OF THE OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE PASSING BY.
DISGUSTING.
Maybe they pay Union Dues to Mayer dip shit
Sorry that is Mayor not Mayer Dip Shit
THE TRUTH!
CLOSE ENUF the first post!
butt itz ok fer u 2 'peach' (sic) hate against Christians! ~GOD~ clearly stated what HE thought about sinners and you AND yer fairie buddies are sinners without doubt! you have condemned yerselves according to HIS law!
NAH! he is just a minion.
I don't think that the opinion of leadership idiots always reflects the desires of the people they lead. There are many people in need all over the world, just because those in authority over them don't seem to want help from the Church doesn't mean that the Church should give up on those people. Certainly there is a time that Jesus tells us to kick the dust off of our feet and move one, but not to give up on the ones who want help. The leaders don't speak for everyone.
"Board of Education officials stuck with their ban on churches, though, saying it will protect the minds of “impressionable youth.”"
Yes, those "impressionable youth" who would be better placed at home watching Schwarzenegger, Willis, ans Stallone gunning down people thus training them in proper firearms usage. Those same "impressionable youth" then hit the streets with their new-found knowledge. Thank government that our "impressionable youth" are being protected from morality and god.
Maybe the Muslim mosques will rent them some space, and then they will make the millions of dollars.